Is it feasible to say that scientific and religious ideas have been taken to horrific extremes by man?

Not really. Religion has always been about cannibalism and child sacrifice, nowadays it's just dressed up a bit. There's still some pretty nasty stuff in most mainstream religious teachings.

And science cannot be taken to extremes. How is that even possible?

e; oh I understand you. No, social darwinism is a polite way of saying "racism". Natural selection does not need us to force it, it happens. Killing people because they are "inferior" is racist eugenics. If I was to set someone on fire, would you blame the fire? If I shot someone with a kalashnikov, would it be kalashnikovism? social darwinism has no place in science, and all serious scientific talk of eugenics died out long before anyone actually considered going ahead and, say, murdering the jews. You could argue that we'd be on murky ground if we genetically modified every developing embryo in the world to be an athletic intelligent blonde haired blue eyed white male, but I don't think even genetic engineering of children for things such as Tay-Sacchs or sickle cell would be taking the idea too far.

So now I can answer your original question that I understand it; yes, the fault is always man. People kill people. Religions have currently got the highest official tally but to argue that without religion there would be no war is naive at best and dishonest at worst. People have an innate us v them mentality, which is what makes religion so popular. Most western theists don't actually subscribe to anything but a cliff notes edited version of their religions but it's about unified identity, and feeling included. Unfortunately, this leads to hatred of outsiders. The Troubles is a great example; Dawkins has been heavily criticised for calling it a religious dispute because it frankly isn't. However simply having a catholic name in certain parts of Belfast is enough to get you attacked. The reasons behind it are incredibly complex and far-reaching but inside the minds of the people it boils down to "I don't like them. They're catholic/protestant. I don't like catholics/protestants." And suddenly, you have civil war.

ee; clanad what was wrong with Dolly? Cloning Dolly was vital for our understanding of stem cell research. She died of cancer, and had no issues with the cloning. She was almost certainly born at the age of six by telometric measurements but it appeared to have no effect.

Definitely "taken to horrific extremes by man".

I just think of 9/11 when you say this.

If it is a religion's so-called fault, then this is definitely a made-up religion that is extremely distorted by the man/woman who invented it.

As for science the same is true. Like religion a great amount of goodness has come from it, but, from those who have went to extremes like to play God with life (ex: Dolly the goat), science has indeed been "screwed by man".

Yes, I think so. Man should take the responsibility. Nothing inherently bad about either science or religion, only those who go to extremes in the name of either.

We are all too egotistic, we blame Religion for the wars of the past, and we blame science for the weapons of today including the atomic bomb and biological weapons. There's nothing bad about either science & religion work. It is man who has the fault, but of course not too many people want to agree with that.

The ROOT of the problem is Horeb-bull Law.

Where no law, there no flaw: Romans 4:15.

When no law, then no flaw: Romans 5:13.

So if you want to avoid Horeb-bull things

concerning man's science and religion,

then flush your law as dung to have

grace mercy peace world wide.

No Grace. Know Problem. ... first

Know Grace. No Problem. ... second

The law was given by Moses, ... first

but grace & truth came by JC ... second

The law and prophets were until John, ... first

but since then the KofG is preached ... second

the beginning of sorrows (laws) ... first

the end of sorrows (laws) ... second

He taketh away the first,

that he may establish the second;

Obviously (to those with a brain) because

such contrary things can't co-exist in peace

Law: press DELETE to take away sorrows

Grace: press SAVE to e-stablish peace

You know, people always think am kidding when i say its the 'Extraterrestrials'.

but i swear, its them.

They invented religion so that the human race would never unite as one and science is out to prove something to that effect.

I completely agree, its the people that are the problem not the science or religion.

Yes.

Without religion there would be very few reasons for war

Without science we would have no way to fight the war

We're all just putting a label on what we personally consider to be common sense.

There's nothing wrong with any of it. I think that as long as it isn't hurting anyone it shouldnt matter at all.